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Season 1: Reservoirs of Resilience | Episode 3

The Reservoir of Purpose


Our conversation with Dori and Stephen is packed with fresh insights about seeing leadership as a communal practice, the role of deep listening, and the work of discerning purpose that requires both risk and courage.

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Rahel Billups

Dr. Dori Baker

Dr. Dori Baker describes herself as a spy for hope. She is passionate about expanding the genre of stories, images, and artifacts for helping people find meaning and discover purpose.

She is an educator, activist, and scholar focused on feminist theologies, critical race theory, young adult culture, leadership development and spiritual practices that sustain activism. Dori is an ordained United Methodist elder in the Virginia Annual Conference. Her first career as a journalist led to seminary, ordination, and a PhD in religious studies. Dori’s most recent book with co-authors Matthew Wesley Williams and Stephen Lewis is Another Way: Living and Leading Change on Purpose. Other books include Doing Girlfriend Theology: God Talk with Young Women, The Barefoot Way: A Faith Guide for Youth, Young Adults, and the People Who Walk with Them. Dori works as an independent consultant and can be reached at

Rahel Billups

Stephen Lewis

Stephen Lewis is an organizational change strategist and facilitator, and a leadership development specialist, focused on helping leaders to discover their purpose, passion, and calling in life.

He is the President of the Forum for Theological Exploration (also known as FTE), which is a national leadership incubator that cultivates wise, faithful, and courageous leaders who make a difference in the world through the church and academy. In 2017, he founded DO GOOD X, a start-up accelerator for diverse, faith-rooted entrepreneurs creating social good ventures. Stephen has earned degrees from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte and Duke University. You can learn more about him and his work at and

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Today’s episode focused on conversation from themes found in Another Way: Living and Leading Change on Purpose by Dori Baker, Stephen Lewis, and Matthew Wesley Williams.

Podcast and additional resources on Another Way can be found at

For more information about Dori Baker and her work as a consultant, visit:

Find out more about the work of the Forum for Theological Exploration at

Stephen Lewis founded DO GOOD X, a start-up accelerator for diverse, faith-rooted entrepreneurs creating social good ventures. For more information:

Reservoirs of Resilience is inspired by the monograph written by Bishop Janice Huie. Read the full publication here.

"That's Something" music and lyrics by Billy Crockett, © 2016 Spare Room Music, BMI, from the album In Session (with Roscoe Beck), Blue Rock Artists, 2020

"Resilience" music by Billy Crockett, © 2021 Spare Room Music, BMI

This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission.

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